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mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt'>A 77 ans, Ren Courtois est indissociable du Chemin des Dames et des terribles vnements de 1917.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Pourtant ce spcialiste de l'histoire locale ne se rsume pas  ce seul rle de gardien de la mmoire, il est avant tout un jsuite actif et fier de l'tre. Originaire de Martelange en Belgique, 1e Pre </span></b><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 8.0pt'>Cour</span></b><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:9.0pt'>tois veille tout particulirement sur l'Abbaye, de Vauclair, depuis maintenant 35 ans.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;text-indent:9.0pt; tab-stops:7.2pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt'><img border=0 width=356 height=439 id="_x0000_i1025" src="IMAGES\HOMMELIBRE.jpg"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 9.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'>A.N.: On vous appelle Pre Courtois, mais quelle est votre fonction officielle au sein de l'glise ?</span></b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'>R.C. : <i> Je suis jsuite, je ne d</i><i>pends donc pas de l'Evque ou du</i> <i>clerg diocsain. Les Jsuites s'appellent pre, rvrend pre</i>... <i>Les</i> <i>gosses du coin disent Monsieur le</i> <i>Cur. Mais enfin, comme avait dit Vatican 2, aprs 75 ans les prtres devraient arrter. Si jamais, on devait appliquer cela dans le Diocse de Soissons, on n'aurait plus de prtre.</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'>Comment vivez vous d'un., point de vue financier ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 14.4pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'> J'avais mon salaire au comit du</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'> <i>tourisme. Cela faisait le Smic. Maintenant, je touche une petite retraite et</i> <i>une complmentaire .</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'>Vous tes un spcialiste du Chemin des Dames.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Un choix tonnant pour un homme d'glise ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 14.4pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'> Je suis le nez dessus ici.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Ce serait la guerre de 1870, ce serait pareil. Je suis jsuite, donc quand je</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'> <i>m'intresse  quelque chose, il faut</i> <i>que ce soit prcis. Je suis venu ici  Vauclair, il y a 35 ans,  l'origine pour</i> <i>faire du mdival, il ne faut pas</i> <i>l'oublier. Mais je ne pouvais pas ignorer ce Chemin des Dames qui est un</i> <i>massif gologique. Et puis, cet intrt est venu aussi en coutant /es survivants </i>de la <i>Grande Guerre.</i> <i>N'oublions pas que les europens de</i> <i>l'An 2000 sont ns dans le bourbier</i> <i>du Chemin des Dames <o:p></o:p></i></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'>Cette tiquette de spcialiste du Chemin des Dames vous gne-t-elle ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'> Non, pas du tout.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Au contraire,</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'> <i>c'est un honneur ! </i>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoBodyTextIndent>Les fouilles archologiques, les recherches historiques, le jardin mdicinal... Autant d'actions qui auraient pu tre menes sans tre un religieux.</p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'> J'ai rejoint les Jsuites en 1943.</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'> <i>J'avais 20 ans et c'tait une priode</i> <i>o l'on vivait dans un climat de gnrosit et de don de soi.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>C'tait la</i> <i>guerre </i>... <i>Pourquoi les Jsuites ? C'est</i> <i>parce que c'est quand mme ce qui</i> <i>se faisait de mieux.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Si j'avais choisi</i> <i>d'tre militaire, cela n'aurait pas t</i> <i>pour tre dans les troupes de l'arrire, cela aurait t pour servir sur le</i> <i>front. Ma mre m'a demand ce qui</i> <i>avait motiv mon choix en insistant</i> <i>sur le fait que les Jsuites taient</i> <i>ceux que l'on chasse de partout. Je</i> <i>lui ai rpondu : &quot; c'est peut-tre pour</i> <i>cela &quot;. Quoi qu'il en soit, je ne regrette pas ma dcision, car c'est un</i> <i>grand ordre </i>.<i>.</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'>On vous a qualifi de rdempteur du Chemin des Dames.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Un titre qui vous plat ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'> Non ! il faut tre honnte, c'est la</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'> <i>conseillre gnrale, Mme Venet qui</i> <i>a su convaincre Paul Girod de mettre</i> <i>en valeur le Chemin des Dames .<o:p></o:p></i></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;tab-stops:7.2pt 36.0pt 72.0pt 108.0pt 144.0pt 180.0pt 216.0pt 252.0pt 288.0pt 324.0pt 360.0pt 396.0pt 432.0pt 468.0pt 504.0pt 540.0pt 576.0pt 612.0pt 648.0pt 684.0pt 720.0pt 756.0pt 792.0pt 828.0pt 864.0pt 900.0pt 936.0pt 972.0pt 1008.0pt 1044.0pt 1080.0pt 1116.0pt 1152.0pt 1188.0pt 1224.0pt 1260.0pt 1296.0pt 1332.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt'>Vous tes  l'origine du jardin mdicinal. Vous vous considrez comme un cologiste ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none'><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'> Les cologistes sont sympathiques, mais ils m'nervent aussi par d'autres aspects. Il faut dire que dans l'Aisne, nous ne sommes pas toujours gts. C'est parce que les grands partis ont t ngligeants et insouciants sur le plan de l'cologie qu'il a fallu que cette tendance se dveloppe. Le jour o les grands partis auront compris qu'il faut intgrer </span></i><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt'>l'cologie dans</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> l<i>eurs programmes,</i> <i>les formations purement colo</i> <i>n'auront plus de raison d'tre </i></span><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'></span></i><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>.</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoBodyTextIndent><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Vous n'avez pas votre langue dans votre poche, vous n'avez pas peur de prendre position... Vous tes un cur plutt atypique.<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none'><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'></span></i><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> Je suis peut tre plutt un</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> <i>homme libre. Je n'ai jamais baiss la</i> <i>tte sur ce qui peut tre dit quant  la</i> <i>vrit. Mais ma libert, c'est surtout</i> <i>de ne pas avoir d'tiquette </i></span><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'></span></i><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt'>.</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoBodyTextIndent><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Vous refusez d'tre class, mais quelle est cependant votre relle identit: chercheur, historien, religieux ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none'><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'></span></i><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> Je suis homme d'glise car je</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> <i>suis Jsuite. Nous sommes des gens</i> <i>de frontire, nous nous proccupons</i> <i>avant tout de ceux qui sont en dehors</i> <i>de l'glise, mais pas pour faire du</i> <i>proslytisme. La grande tradition des</i> <i>jsuites, c'est le respect des grandes</i> <i>cultures, comme les rites indiens. A</i> <i>la cour de Chine, les Jsuites taient</i> <i>astronomes. Nous cherchons  montrer ce qu'est un chrtien </i></span><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'></span></i><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt'>.</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Que reprsente pour vous le 11 novembre ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none'><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'></span></i><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> C'est une date qui m'a toujours</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> <i>marqu. Pour moi le Chemin des Dames est super habit. Des coins</i> <i>comme le Plateau de Californie ont</i> <i>vu des milliers de soldats tomber</i> <i>sous les balles. J'aime traner dans</i> <i>les cimetires. Un cimetire, c'est un</i> <i>nom, un prnom, une famille, un coin</i> <i>de France. Dans la plaquette sur le</i> <i>Chemin des Dames, j'ai expliqu que</i> <i>les gnraux manient leurs troupes</i> <i>comme des ensembles. La mitraille,</i> <i>elle n'atteint que des vies singuli</i>res<i> </i></span><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt'></span></i><i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt'>.</span></i><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify;text-indent:9.0pt;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none'><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoBodyTextIndent2>Propos recueillis par<br> Philippe DUFRESNE</p>  <p class=MsoBodyTextIndent2 align=left style='text-align:left'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:normal'><a href="#i">(1)</a> <a name=ni></a>Article du 11 novembre 2000 dans l'Union<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoBodyTextIndent2 align=left style='text-align:left'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:normal'><![if !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p class=MsoBodyTextIndent2><span style='font-weight:normal'><a href="ETUDES.htm#JOURNAL"><b>Retour</b></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></p>  </div>  </body>  </html> 
