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class="row1" width="100%" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> 			<tr> 				<td width="100%"><a href="viewtopic.php?p=4697#4697"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" /></a><span class="postdetails">Post le: Dim Jan 19, 2003 12:06 am<span class="gen"></span> Sujet du message: La virginit et le jeu de rle.</span></td> 				<td valign="top" align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=4697"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_quote.gif" alt="Rpondre en citant" title="Rpondre en citant" border="0" /></a>   </td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><hr /></td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">ok ok, virginit et jeux de rle, deux notions qui vous paraissent aussi loignes que la boxe tha et les recettes de Mat...et pourtant. <br /> Ayant masteris recemment ma premire partie de Retrofutur (jeu de rle contemporain et dcal), je me suis rendu compte du challenge que c'tait de repartir de zero, d'avoir  faire imaginer et voluer 6 joueurs dans un univers fictif et pas forcment vident  mettre en scne, compar aux jdr mdivaux (qui permettent plus d'cart et donnent donc plus de liberts au matre du jeu)...bref, je me suis senti comme  ma premire partie de jdr masteris (Dieu sait si a remonte  loin) et p'tain c'tait bon. <br />  <br /> J'aimerai savoir si vous avez dj ressenti cette sensation trange et pntrante.</span><span class="gensmall"></span></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="row1" width="150" align="left" valign="middle"><span class="nav"><a href="#top" class="nav">Revenir en haut</a></span></td> 		<td class="row1" width="100%" height="28" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" height="18" width="18"> 			<tr> 				<td valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=44"><img 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	<tr> 		<td class="spaceRow" colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td width="150" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name="4700"></a><b>Selena</b></span><br /><span class="postdetails">DreamCatcher<br /><img src="images/avatars/50085a193ead852e3acce.gif" alt="" border="0" /><br /><br />Inscrit le: 03 Sep 2002<br />Messages: 880</span><br /></td> 		<td class="row2" width="100%" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> 			<tr> 				<td width="100%"><a href="viewtopic.php?p=4700#4700"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" /></a><span class="postdetails">Post le: Dim Jan 19, 2003 12:24 am<span class="gen"></span> Sujet du message: championne de boxe thai catgorie poids lourd</span></td> 				<td valign="top" align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=4700"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_quote.gif" alt="Rpondre en citant" title="Rpondre en citant" border="0" /></a>   </td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><hr /></td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">la boxe thai et mait...tu n'as jamais vu comment elle a assom une anguille, et puis toutes les autres brutalits infligs  ces animaux!!! <img src="images/smiles/icon_eek.gif" alt="icon_eek.gif" border="0" /></span><span class="gensmall"></span></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="row2" width="150" align="left" valign="middle"><span class="nav"><a href="#top" class="nav">Revenir en haut</a></span></td> 		<td class="row2" width="100%" height="28" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" height="18" width="18"> 			<tr> 				<td valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=10"><img 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		<td class="spaceRow" colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td width="150" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name="4703"></a><b>mr pink</b></span><br /><span class="postdetails">Chocobo Asthmatique<br /><img src="images/avatars/gallery/cartoon/545.gif" alt="" border="0" /><br /><br />Inscrit le: 11 Nov 2002<br />Messages: 451</span><br /></td> 		<td class="row1" width="100%" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> 			<tr> 				<td width="100%"><a href="viewtopic.php?p=4703#4703"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" /></a><span class="postdetails">Post le: Dim Jan 19, 2003 12:30 am<span class="gen"></span> Sujet du message: mdr!</span></td> 				<td valign="top" align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=4703"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_quote.gif" alt="Rpondre en citant" title="Rpondre en citant" border="0" /></a>   </td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><hr /></td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Justement, d'o l'usage du 'et pourtant' qui a deux sens. Et en effet, je crois bien que le coup de l'anguille restera dans les anales du zapping. Pauvre anguille va! enfin, elle doit tre au paradis des anguilles maintenant. <br />  <br /> a-gentle-coyote</span><span class="gensmall"></span></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="row1" width="150" align="left" valign="middle"><span class="nav"><a href="#top" class="nav">Revenir en haut</a></span></td> 		<td class="row1" width="100%" height="28" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" height="18" width="18"> 			<tr> 				<td valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=44"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_profile.gif" alt="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" title="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" border="0" /></a> <a href="privmsg.php?mode=post&amp;u=44"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_pm.gif" alt="Envoyer un message priv" title="Envoyer un message priv" border="0" /></a> <a href="mailto:tom-tom-templar@caramail.com"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_email.gif" alt="Envoyer un email" title="Envoyer un email" border="0" /></a>    <script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"><!--  	if ( navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf('mozilla') != -1 && navigator.userAgent.indexOf('5.') == -1 ) 		document.write(' '); 	else 		document.write('</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><div style="position:relative"><div style="position:absolute"></div><div style="position:absolute;left:3px;top:-1px"></div></div>');  				//--></script><noscript></noscript></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="spaceRow" colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td width="150" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name="4722"></a><b>CBL</b></span><br /><span class="postdetails">Son of Liberty<br /><img src="images/avatars/500dfb7d3ec116fcc4d29.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><br /><br />Inscrit le: 03 Sep 2002<br />Messages: 1201</span><br /></td> 		<td class="row2" width="100%" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> 			<tr> 				<td width="100%"><a href="viewtopic.php?p=4722#4722"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" /></a><span class="postdetails">Post le: Dim Jan 19, 2003 11:14 am<span class="gen"></span> Sujet du message: </span></td> 				<td valign="top" align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=4722"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_quote.gif" alt="Rpondre en citant" title="Rpondre en citant" border="0" /></a>   </td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><hr /></td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Non, ca ne m'ai jamais arriv, probablement parce que j'ai rarement fait MJ ou alors pour quelques scnars foireux et quelques impros bien marrante. <br /> Par contre, j'ai eu pas de mal de fois l'impression de m'etre fait dfoncer l'amour propre par certains MJs peut scrupuleux.<br />_________________<br />Je HAIS les maths et les profs de maths.</span><span class="gensmall"></span></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="row2" width="150" align="left" valign="middle"><span class="nav"><a href="#top" class="nav">Revenir en haut</a></span></td> 		<td class="row2" width="100%" height="28" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" height="18" width="18"> 			<tr> 				<td valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_profile.gif" alt="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" title="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" border="0" /></a> <a href="privmsg.php?mode=post&amp;u=8"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_pm.gif" alt="Envoyer un message priv" title="Envoyer un message priv" border="0" /></a> <a href="mailto:cbl@krinein.com"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_email.gif" alt="Envoyer un email" title="Envoyer un email" border="0" /></a> <a href="http://www.krinein.com" target="_userwww"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_www.gif" alt="Visiter le site web du posteur" title="Visiter le site web du posteur" border="0" /></a>   <script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"><!--  	if ( navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf('mozilla') != -1 && navigator.userAgent.indexOf('5.') == -1 ) 		document.write(' <a href="http://wwp.icq.com/scripts/search.dll?to=156422776"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_icq_add.gif" alt="Numro ICQ" title="Numro ICQ" border="0" /></a>'); 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Pauvre de lui. Il avait dej eu du mal a m'apprendre le tarot  <img src="images/smiles/new_let_it_all_out.gif" alt="new_let_it_all_out.gif" border="0" /><br />_________________<br />"opinions are like asshole, everyone got's one" Inspecteur Harry</span><span class="gensmall"></span></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="row1" width="150" align="left" valign="middle"><span class="nav"><a href="#top" class="nav">Revenir en haut</a></span></td> 		<td class="row1" width="100%" height="28" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" height="18" width="18"> 			<tr> 				<td valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=20"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_profile.gif" alt="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" title="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" border="0" /></a> <a href="privmsg.php?mode=post&amp;u=20"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_pm.gif" alt="Envoyer un message priv" title="Envoyer un message priv" border="0" /></a>     <a href="profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=20"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_msnm.gif" alt="MSN Messenger" title="MSN Messenger" border="0" /></a><script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"><!--  	if ( navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf('mozilla') != -1 && navigator.userAgent.indexOf('5.') == -1 ) 		document.write(' '); 	else 		document.write('</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><div style="position:relative"><div style="position:absolute"></div><div style="position:absolute;left:3px;top:-1px"></div></div>');  				//--></script><noscript></noscript></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="spaceRow" colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td width="150" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name="9411"></a><b>Eminence ORSON</b></span><br /><span class="postdetails">Brin d'herbe du stade de France<br /><img src="images/avatars/gallery/cartoon/036.gif" alt="" border="0" /><br /><br />Inscrit le: 08 Avr 2003<br />Messages: 91</span><br /></td> 		<td class="row2" width="100%" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> 			<tr> 				<td width="100%"><a href="viewtopic.php?p=9411#9411"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" /></a><span class="postdetails">Post le: Dim Avr 20, 2003 8:59 pm<span class="gen"></span> Sujet du message: </span></td> 				<td valign="top" align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=9411"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_quote.gif" alt="Rpondre en citant" title="Rpondre en citant" border="0" /></a>   </td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><hr /></td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">je crois que le problme ne vient pas du fait que le MJ doit ingrer un norme pav de rgle et autre puis l'appliquer. Mais plutt du fait que les  joueurs doivent pouvoir voluer dans diffrent esprit de jeu sans se forcer, ya qu'a regarder Djack  Agone il ce croit dans un manga japonnais ou le sexe est primordiale ce n'est pas compatible  <img src="images/smiles/icon_cry.gif" alt="icon_cry.gif" border="0" /><br />_________________<br />Je dteste les examens et surtout la mca</span><span class="gensmall"></span></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="row2" width="150" align="left" valign="middle"><span class="nav"><a href="#top" class="nav">Revenir en haut</a></span></td> 		<td class="row2" width="100%" height="28" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" height="18" width="18"> 			<tr> 				<td valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=266"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_profile.gif" alt="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" title="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" border="0" /></a> <a href="privmsg.php?mode=post&amp;u=266"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_pm.gif" alt="Envoyer un message priv" title="Envoyer un message priv" border="0" /></a> <a href="mailto:matthieu.huellou@wanadoo.fr"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_email.gif" alt="Envoyer un email" title="Envoyer un email" border="0" /></a>    <script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"><!--  	if ( navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf('mozilla') != -1 && navigator.userAgent.indexOf('5.') == -1 ) 		document.write(' '); 	else 		document.write('</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><div style="position:relative"><div style="position:absolute"></div><div style="position:absolute;left:3px;top:-1px"></div></div>');  				//--></script><noscript></noscript></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="spaceRow" colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td width="150" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name="9469"></a><b>Pyrod</b></span><br /><span class="postdetails">Zombie de Resident Evil<br /><img src="images/avatars/gallery/cartoon/566.gif" alt="" border="0" /><br /><br />Inscrit le: 21 Mar 2003<br />Messages: 23</span><br /></td> 		<td class="row1" width="100%" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> 			<tr> 				<td width="100%"><a href="viewtopic.php?p=9469#9469"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" /></a><span class="postdetails">Post le: Mar Avr 22, 2003 8:49 pm<span class="gen"></span> Sujet du message: </span></td> 				<td valign="top" align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=9469"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_quote.gif" alt="Rpondre en citant" title="Rpondre en citant" border="0" /></a>   </td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><hr /></td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">L'ternel problme du jeu de rle: d'un cot des mJs soufrant d'un serieu dlir de persecution. et de l'autre, des joueurs ingrats ne songeant mme pas aux trsors d'ingniosit qu'il  fallut pour crtire le scnar alors qu'il dcide de mettre le couvent dans lequel ils devaient enquter , discrtement,  sac avant de tous faire bruler. <br />  <br /> Pour avoir pratiquer les deux, je me demande ce que je prfere entre masriser et jouer, le dlir n'est vraiment pas le meme. Et vous?</span><span class="gensmall"></span></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="row1" width="150" align="left" valign="middle"><span class="nav"><a href="#top" class="nav">Revenir en haut</a></span></td> 		<td class="row1" width="100%" height="28" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" height="18" width="18"> 			<tr> 				<td valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=218"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_profile.gif" alt="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" title="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" border="0" /></a> <a href="privmsg.php?mode=post&amp;u=218"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_pm.gif" alt="Envoyer un message priv" title="Envoyer un message priv" border="0" /></a>     <script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"><!--  	if ( navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf('mozilla') != -1 && navigator.userAgent.indexOf('5.') == -1 ) 		document.write(' '); 	else 		document.write('</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><div style="position:relative"><div style="position:absolute"></div><div style="position:absolute;left:3px;top:-1px"></div></div>');  				//--></script><noscript></noscript></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="spaceRow" colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td width="150" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name="9481"></a><b>Val Lazare</b></span><br /><span class="postdetails">Produit sotrique<br /><img src="images/avatars/gallery/cartoon/260.gif" alt="" border="0" /><br /><br />Inscrit le: 24 Nov 2002<br />Messages: 484</span><br /></td> 		<td class="row2" width="100%" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> 			<tr> 				<td width="100%"><a href="viewtopic.php?p=9481#9481"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" /></a><span class="postdetails">Post le: Mar Avr 22, 2003 10:44 pm<span class="gen"></span> Sujet du message: </span></td> 				<td valign="top" align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=9481"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_quote.gif" alt="Rpondre en citant" title="Rpondre en citant" border="0" /></a>   </td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><hr /></td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Le plaisir n'est pas le mme, c'est bien vrai. En pratique, le MJ ne prendra pas de plaisir si les joueurs n'en prennent pas eux mmes ( moins d'tre particulirement sadique). Au vu de mes parties masterises, j'ai eu normment de plaisir  voir la joie, la peur, la tension s'installer sur le visage de mes joueurs, ou mme  voir un pote jouer  fond son personnage,  faire la comdie quoi (ce n'est que trop rare). Plus modestement, de bonnes sances de rigolade initi par le MJ sont dj trs agrable. <br /> Pour le joueur, le plaisir est beaucoup plus facile, tu te ramnes sans avoir eu  cogiter sur un scnar digne de ce nom, tu prends la partie comme elle vient, et tu te contente de vivre ton personnage  travers le matre du jeu. <br /> Je dirai que le plaisir de masteriser est plus rare et demande  la base un certain effort mais justement, parce qu'il est diffrent de celui du joueur, il mrite le dtour. <br /> Alors  toutes les faignasses de joueur, masteriser un coup (tiens ce conseil pourrait s'appliquer  moi en ce moment?  <img src="images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif" alt="icon_twisted.gif" border="0" /> )<br />_________________<br />'Jette-moi un regard et ma vie est  toi' The thin red line</span><span class="gensmall"></span></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="row2" width="150" align="left" valign="middle"><span class="nav"><a href="#top" class="nav">Revenir en haut</a></span></td> 		<td class="row2" width="100%" height="28" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" height="18" width="18"> 			<tr> 				<td valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=62"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_profile.gif" alt="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" title="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" border="0" /></a> <a href="privmsg.php?mode=post&amp;u=62"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_pm.gif" alt="Envoyer un message priv" title="Envoyer un message priv" border="0" /></a>  <a href="http://www.krinein.com" target="_userwww"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_www.gif" alt="Visiter le site web du posteur" title="Visiter le site web du posteur" border="0" /></a>   <script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript"><!--  	if ( navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf('mozilla') != -1 && navigator.userAgent.indexOf('5.') == -1 ) 		document.write(' '); 	else 		document.write('</td><td>&nbsp;</td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap"><div style="position:relative"><div style="position:absolute"></div><div style="position:absolute;left:3px;top:-1px"></div></div>');  				//--></script><noscript></noscript></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="spaceRow" colspan="2" height="1"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td width="150" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name="9488"></a><b>Pyrod</b></span><br /><span class="postdetails">Zombie de Resident Evil<br /><img src="images/avatars/gallery/cartoon/566.gif" alt="" border="0" /><br /><br />Inscrit le: 21 Mar 2003<br />Messages: 23</span><br /></td> 		<td class="row1" width="100%" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> 			<tr> 				<td width="100%"><a href="viewtopic.php?p=9488#9488"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" /></a><span class="postdetails">Post le: Mer Avr 23, 2003 1:52 pm<span class="gen"></span> Sujet du message: </span></td> 				<td valign="top" align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=9488"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_quote.gif" alt="Rpondre en citant" title="Rpondre en citant" border="0" /></a>   </td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><hr /></td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Ouai, d'un autre cot, le tuck, c'est que lorsque tu est joueur et que tu ***bip*** la partie tu peut toujours dire que c'est la faute du mJ. Alors qu'mJ, tu ne pas  tous les coup dire que la partie est nulle  cause des joueurs. <br />  <br /> Mais je suis d'accord pour dire que si il est plus rare et plus difficile  obtenir, c'est le plaisir demastriser qui est le meilleur. Quoique l'on peut se demander, si ,c'est une supposition, le plus grand plaisir dans le jdr, n'est pas de jouer mais de raconter ses prouesses passes.</span><span class="gensmall"></span></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="row1" width="150" align="left" valign="middle"><span class="nav"><a href="#top" class="nav">Revenir en haut</a></span></td> 		<td class="row1" width="100%" height="28" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" height="18" width="18"> 			<tr> 				<td valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=218"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_profile.gif" alt="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" title="Voir le profil de l'utilisateur" border="0" /></a> <a href="privmsg.php?mode=post&amp;u=218"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_pm.gif" alt="Envoyer un message priv" title="Envoyer un message priv" border="0" /></a>     <script language="JavaScript" 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width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> 			<tr> 				<td width="100%"><a href="viewtopic.php?p=9503#9503"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Message" title="Message" border="0" /></a><span class="postdetails">Post le: Mer Avr 23, 2003 6:11 pm<span class="gen"></span> Sujet du message: </span></td> 				<td valign="top" align="right" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=9503"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/lang_french/icon_quote.gif" alt="Rpondre en citant" title="Rpondre en citant" border="0" /></a>   </td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><hr /></td> 			</tr> 			<tr> 				<td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" border="0" /> ouai c'est vrai que masteriser et jouer c'est pas le mme plaisir. quand on joue tant MJ on a souvent envie de remasteris et vis versa. trop en faire dans une catgorie ou l'autre c'est ce lass en quelque sorte d'un type d'amusement.  <br />  <br /> mais je prfre de loin le rle de MJ bien que la critique est facile de la par de PJ mais quel plaisir quand tu fait t'on scnar et qu'il n'y  pas d'accro que les PJ s'amuse et son assez libre de mouvement pour pouvoir orienter le scnar dans un sens ou dans l'autre. y a pas  dire vivement le Week end  <img src="images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="icon_razz.gif" border="0" /><br />_________________<br />Je dteste les examens et surtout la mca</span><span class="gensmall"></span></td> 			</tr> 		</table></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td class="row2" width="150" align="left" valign="middle"><span class="nav"><a href="#top" class="nav">Revenir en haut</a></span></td> 		<td class="row2" width="100%" height="28" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" height="18" width="18"> 			<tr> 				<td valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><a href="profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=266"><img 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