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Sortie le 5 mars <img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="1" height="1" alt=""></td>     </tr> 	 </table>  <!-- Debut de Table nom et date --> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="322"> 	<tr>  	  <td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="4" height="10" alt=""></td>     	</tr> 	<tr> 	  <td><span class="refC8N10">RAFAEL WOLF</span><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="1" height="1" alt=""></td> 	</tr> 	<tr>  	  <td><span class="refC8N10">08 mars 2003</span></td>     	</tr> 	<tr>  	  <td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="1" height="10"></td>  	</tr> </table> <!-- Fin de Table nom et date -->  <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="322"> 	   	         	         	         	         	         	         		 		 		 		 		 		 		 	              	                          <tr>     	  <td valign="top" class="textC1N11" width="322">            	           <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="153" align="right"> 	<tr> 		<td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td> 		<td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td> 		<td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="138" height="1" alt=""></td> 		<td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td> 	</tr> 	<tr>  	 	        <td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td> 		<td colspan="3" class="sorBg"><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="3" alt=""></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td colspan="4"><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td> 		<td colspan="3" background="/nwmatin/images/info/act_dotLine.gif"><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td> 	</tr> 	<tr> 		<td colspan="4"><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="10" alt=""></td> 	</tr>              	<tr>             		<td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td> 					<td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="3" height="1" alt=""></td>             		<td class="subtitleC1B10">Sur le mme sujet</td>             		<td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td>             	</tr>  	                    	<tr>	<td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td> 	                    		<td class="textC1N11"><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="3" height="1" alt=""></td> 	                    		<td class="textC1N11">&raquo; 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<a href="http://www.bacfilms.com/site/nipournicontre/"  target="_blank" class="contentC4B10" title="">Site officiel de Ni pour, ni contre</a></td> 	                    		<td class="textC1N11"><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="3" height="1" alt=""></td> 	                    	</tr>          	<tr>         		<td colspan="4"><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="13" alt=""></td>         	</tr>  	<tr> 		<td><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td> 		<td colspan="3" background="/nwmatin/images/info/act_dotLine.gif"><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="1" alt=""></td> 	</tr> 	 	<tr> 		<td colspan="4"><img src="/nwmatin/images/pixel.gif" width="5" height="5" alt=""></td> 		 	</tr>     </table> 	  C'est l'heure du repas de midi. Dans le caf branch de la Bastille o nous attend Cdric Klapisch, l'activit est  son comble. Le lieu est bruyant, anim par une faune mtisse. L'atmosphre ressemble rsolument au cinaste de Chacun cherche son chat et d'Un air de famille. Vivante. Imprvisible. Conviviale. Encore aurol du succs de L'auberge espagnole, Klapisch n'affiche pourtant pas le moindre signe de prtention. Modeste, sincre et gnreux, l'homme a les pieds sur terre. Bien ancr dans la ralit quotidienne, il aborde pour la premire fois le genre du polar avec Ni pour ni contre (bien au contraire). Une histoire focalise sur un groupe de gangsters cyniques et amoraux, mens par Marie Gillain et Vincent Elbaz. Mais, d'abord, Ni pour ni contre (bien au contraire)... <B>a ne serait pas un peu suisse, des fois?</B><br><br>Bien sr. C'est un proverbe de chez vous. Mais, en France, tout le monde pense que l'expression vient d'un sketch de Coluche. En fait, mon pre vit en Suisse depuis quinze ans. Et a faisait longtemps dj que ce proverbe tait un motif de rigolade entre nous.<br><br><B>Le titre du film renvoie  une certaine neutralit. C'est plutt tonnant de la part d'un cinaste engag comme vous.</B><br>Ni pour ni contre (bien au contraire) est aussi engag, mais d'une autre manire. Je disais souvent  l'poque de Chacun cherche son chat que c'tait un film apolitique qui refltait son poque. Aujourd'hui, nous traversons un moment de confusion des valeurs. Les anciennes oppositions qui marchaient au temps de la guerre froide gauche/droite, bien/mal, hommes/femmes ne sont plus aussi claires qu'avant. Selon moi, tre neutre en ce moment est un engagement. On essaie de ne pas tre guerrier, et c'est un vrai combat. Contrairement  ce qu'on peut croire, tre neutre, c'est savoir affirmer un camp. En Suisse, c'est ce que vous faites.<br><br><B>Votre film est donc autant un polar qu'un constat social?</B><br>Oui. C'est une interrogation pour essayer de retrouver un esprit d'engagement. Le monde actuel est cynique. J'ai utilis le film de gangsters afin de poser des questions morales et de montrer  quel point il est difficile de dire qui est bon et qui est mchant.<br><br><B>Un film moral sur des personnages amoraux en somme...</B><br>Voil. C'est une trs bonne dfinition. J'ai quand mme mis beaucoup de temps pour arriver  trouver une morale au film, sans paratre moraliste.<br><br><B>Comment avez-vous abord le genre du polar?</B><br>J'avais tourn un film de science-fiction il y a quelques annes (<A CLASS=MTLink HREF="http://cklapisch.online.fr/films/peutetre/index.html" TARGET="_blank" ><FONT COLOR=black><B>Peut-tre</B></FONT></A>). Mais je disais partout que je refusais la notion de genre, que je ne voulais pas faire un film de science-fiction. L, il se trouve que j'ai essay d'tre plus conventionnel. Prcisment parce que le projet en lui-mme ne l'tait pas.<br><br><B>Ce tournage a d tre beaucoup plus lourd que L'auberge espagnole?</B><br>Il faut savoir que j'ai tourn L'auberge espagnole en attendant de pouvoir faire celui-ci. D'un film trs lger, je suis donc pass  un tournage infiniment plus lourd et compliqu. Sur le plateau, c'tait d'ailleurs une lutte entre moi et mon quipe. Je cherchais  les tirer vers le ralisme, alors qu'eux m'orientaient vers un polar davantage esthtique. La tension du film rsulte de ce combat.<br><br><B>Les acteurs taient-ils vos allis?</B><br>Comme je connais bien Vincent Elbaz, Simon Abkarian et Zinedine Soualem, ils taient plutt mes complices. Avec Dimitri Storoge et Marie Gillain, ils ont su former un groupe d'une cohrence incroyable, trs solidaire.<br><br><B>Cette notion de troupe est-elle fondamentale pour vous?</B><br>Oui. Parce que le cinma est un sport d'quipe. J'aime parler du rapport d'un individu  un groupe, de la solidarit ou des conflits entre les gens. Du coup, il faut que a se passe de la mme faon sur le tournage.<br><B><br>Vous croyez encore aux hros?</B><br>Oui... Oui. Justement, je pense que j'ai appris au fur et  mesure de mes films la ncessit, presque tragique, de l'tre humain de croire en un hros.<br><br><B>En l'occurrence, vous avez choisi une hrone, Marie Gillain. Qu'est-ce que a change d'adopter un point de vue fminin?</B><br>Beaucoup de choses. Le monde a deux points de vue fondamentaux: le masculin et le fminin. Et ils seront toujours radicalement opposs, parce que savoir qui est l'autre restera mystrieux. Pour un homme, c'est gnial de chercher  savoir ce qu'il y a dans la tte d'une femme. On est dans ce qu'il y a de plus intime chez l'tre humain.<br><br><B>Marie Gillain vous a-t-elle tonn?</B><br>Totalement. Elle tait comme le personnage du film, qui pate tous les mecs. Au dbut du tournage, elle est arrive au milieu des quatre garons qui se la jouaient paternaliste en disant: Viens, petite! On va te montrer ce qu'est une kalachnikov. Et puis,  la fin, tous les gros durs taient assis devant elle. Et moi aussi. Je la voyais comme une adorable jeune fille innocente et elle a t la plus forte sur le tournage.<br><br><B>Pourquoi tes-vous aussi sensible  la notion de communaut?</B><br>Parce que j'ai vcu des moments collectifs forts depuis les annes 1970. A travers des manifestations, une bande d'amis ou ma famille. Cette sensation de la troupe est un moteur pour moi. J'ai d'ailleurs fait du sport d'quipe aprs avoir pratiqu l'athltisme, parce que je trouvais trop dur de se battre uniquement contre soi-mme. Je sais pourtant, parce que j'ai vcu les annes 1970, qu'une communaut est un lieu d'chec. Ou alors un lieu de russite phmre, comme je l'ai montr dans L'auberge espagnole.<br><br><B>La solitude, c'est le comble du malheur?</B><br>Oui, je crois. Je dirais le contraire de Sartre: Le paradis, c'est les autres. 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